16th Annual Bill Gilbert Winter Meeting of the SABR Rogers Hornsby Chapter

Announcing the 16th annual Hornsby Chapter Winter Meeting!

We’ve once again assembled a Hall of Fame lineup of baseball speakers and presenters for your viewing and listening pleasure. This year features former executives, trailblazing pioneers, and good old fashioned baseball talk.

Due to COVID concerns, the meeting will be held virtually. Registration information is below.

Information

WHEN: January 8th, 2022 at 9:00 AM.  

WHERE: Zoom. Click here to register for the meeting. Once registered, you will receive the meeting URL in an email. Use that link to join the call.  

Lineup

  • TAL SMITH is a former baseball executive with tenure in the Cincinnati Reds and New York Yankees organizations. But he is perhaps best known for his time with the Houston Colt .45’s and Astros, for whom he’s served as Farm System Director, General Manager, and President of Baseball Operations. He was so involved in the creation of Minute Maid Park that until 2017, Tal’s Hill was a defining feature of the stadium. In addition, he built a successful business advising MLB clubs on salary arbitration cases. 
  • PERRY BARBER started umpiring little league baseball with her identical twin sister Warren in 1981, when women on the diamond were few and far between. In the four decades since that fateful day when she called her first strike, Perry has umpired every level of amateur and professional baseball all over the world, including major league exhibitions in the United States and Japan, the fabled Cape Cod League, Division I college ball, the independent Atlantic League, and international competitions abroad. Her goal now is to ensure that women umpires who follow in her plate shoes will have a gynocentric infrastructure of support and upward progress that until now has been lacking, so they too can one day defer to the robots. 
  • TIM JACKSON is the General Manager of the Round Rock Express. He joined the Express staff in March of 2010. He was promoted to General Manager in October 2015 after serving as Assistant GM, Baseball Operations for one season. Tim oversees the day-to-day business and baseball operations of the team.  
  • MIKE CAPPS serves as the Director of Broadcasting for the Round Rock Express and has been the voice of the Express since day one. An author, reporter and T.V. anchor, Mike brings over 25 years of news experience to the Express. He has been broadcasting baseball for the last 19 years, including three major league games with ESPN Radio, one in 2005 and two in 1998.
  • Additional presentations from Hornsby Chapter members Dan Walsh, Jim Baker, and Jan Larson.
  • Activities including mock Hall of Fame balloting and memorabilia sharing.

 

Chapter meeting features major awards and MVP quiz

The prospect of barbecue and good baseball conversation brought out 16 members and guests to the Rogers Hornsby Chapter’s 181st consecutive monthly meeting on Saturday, Dec. 18.

The lunch meeting at the County Line BBQ, the birthplace of the chapter 18 years ago, included talk of the Texas Rangers’ rash of big moves, the lockout and related startling absence of all current players and news from the MLB website, and the presumed expansion of postseason teams and use of the designated hitter. We were generally impressed by the home run potential of the Rangers’ infield and optimistic that the lockout will end without too much disruption to spring training. 

We also discussed the new independent team the Austin Weirdos, which currently lacks players or managers but does have some merchandise and a field in East Austin on which to play. Enthusiasm is high, and a chapter outing is surely on the horizon once the team actually gets going.

The esteemed leader of the annual season-long and postseason Predictatron contests, Jim Baker, presented two beautiful new trophies that he generously acquired and had engraved with all past winners to this year’s double winner, chapter commissioner Gilbert Martinez. Gilbert won with a rather low number of points since this year was pretty rough for all of us, as Jim noted, but a win is a win. Jim also read aloud all the names of the past regular-season winners, including that of chapter founder Bill Gilbert and quite a few folks in attendance.

The other big event of the day: Dan Walsh’s entertaining quiz about MVPs, which generated many laughs but also groans. The crossword-clue-style quiz seeking player names and the year they won MVP was tougher than it first appeared, and scores ranged from 1 point to winner Cy Morong’s 54. Second place went to Jim Baker with 34; both won a selection of postcards of baseball-related lithograph prints.  See the quiz and answers below.

Gilbert also announced that SABR is awarding a number of grants to chapters for creative projects. Contact chapter leadership with ideas.

The next meeting is the 16th Annual Bill Gilbert Annual Winter Meeting, to be held Saturday, Jan. 8, at Texas State University. 

MVP DEFINED

By Dan Walsh

There’s a constant debate about how to define an MVP, and now we have a solution.  Below are 40 clues defining the name of an AL or NL MVP.  After you determine the MVPs full name, then provide the year he won the MVP award.  For a player who received more than one MVP, only need to indicate one year.
 
 
     
DEFINITION/CLUE PLAYER’S NAME MVP YEAR
Here’s to you Mrs. _________, Jesus loves you…    
Farmer Hoggett’s runt     
Government certificates with a fixed rate     
American maker of guitars     
Musician who plays a stringed instrument     
Keaton of silent films    
A machine for grinding up tree limbs     
A type of bed that folds out of a wall     
An L-shaped wrench     
A medieval coin worth four pence     
College or university official    
A central Texas university    
Gin, soda and lime cocktail    
Historically black university in D.C.    
Land sloping down to a river     
A person who is not a slave     
It sounds at the end of a round     
An injury caused by exposure to heat or flames    
Caring for a child that is not one’s own     
Older brother of Moses    
Manufacturer of motorcycles     
County in southeast England     
A grain product staple in Asia     
A judge’s seat in court     
An award-winning Broadway musical     
Device used by a disabled person for support     
A small group of trees     
Legal documents for settling an estate     
A cloak or covering     
A limbless vertebrate valued as food     
A barrel maker     
A sly or cunning person     
Bush that bears fragrant flowers     
Capital of Mississippi    
Birth name of Huck’s author    
Parts of a hand     
A dealer in supplies for ships or boats    
A person who gives an oral presentation     
Feeling depressed or sad    
Hindu meditator    
Scoring: 1 point for each correct player, 1 point for the correct year.  Total possible points = 80.

 

 

PLAYER                                                        MVP YEAR

Brooks/Jackie/or Frank ROBINSON    1964/1949/1961,66

BABE Ruth                                                 1923

Barry BONDS                                            1990-92-93, 2001-02-03-04

Bob or Kirk GIBSON                               1968 or 1988

Bryce HARPER                                         2015 or 2021

BUSTER Posey                                         2012

CHIPPER Jones                                        1999

Dale MURPHY                                          1982-83

Dick ALLEN                                               1972

Dick GROAT                                               1960

Dizzy DEAN                                                1934

Don BAYLOR                                              1979

Eddie COLLINS                                         1914

Elston or Ryan HOWARD                     1963 or 2006

Ernie BANKS                                              1958-59

Freddie FREEMAN                                   2020

George BELL                                               1987

George BURNS                                           1926

George FOSTER                                         1977

Hank AARON                                              1957

Ichiro SUZUKI                                           2001

Jeff KENT                                                    2000

Jim RICE                                                       1978

Johnny BENCH                                          1970-72

Josh HAMILTON                                       2010

Larry WALKER                                           1997

Lefty GROVE                                                1931

Maury WILLS                                              1962

Mickey MANTLE                                        1956-57-62

Mike TROUT                                                 2014-16-19

Mort COOPER                                               1942

Nellie FOX                                                      1959

Pete ROSE                                                       1973

Reggie JACKSON                                          1973

Roger CLEMENS                                          1986

Rollie FINGERS                                            1981

Spud CHANDLER                                        1943

Tris SPEAKER                                               1912

Vida BLUE                                                      1971

YOGI Berra                                                     1951-54-55                                  

December Lunch Meeting

The December meeting of the Rogers Hornsby Chapter will be held at the birthplace of the Chapter – the County Line BBQ located at 5204 Ranch Road 2222 in Austin (a short distance east of Hwy 360 on 2222) at 1:00 p.m. on Saturday, December 18.  Members, guests and baseball fans in general are welcome to attend.

So we can have an accurate headcount, please RSVP to Jan Larson at jan.a.larson@gmail.com if you plan to attend.

Post-season awards and coming baseball storm among topics at November meeting

Ten chapter members gabbed about the season that just was, the end-of-year awards, the upcoming clash between players and owners, the free agent market and the new collective bargaining agreement at the November meeting on Saturday.

We discussed how many of us weren’t surprised by Shohei Ohtani’s selection as the AL MVP but were surprised that the vote was unanimous. There was some discussion about Corbin Burnes edging out Zack Wheeler and Max Scherzer for the NL Cy Young Award, despite having the fewest innings pitched among the finalists.

While we enjoyed Mexican food at Serranos for lunch in Southwest Austin, some said they were looking forward to seeing how the negotiations between MLB owners and players will go, while others did not find that appetizing in the least.

Based on attendance, we had brief discussions of our favorite teams, among them (in alphabetical order): Angels, Astros, Dodgers, Mets, Orioles and Yankees.

We also talked about the Astros re-signing Justin Verlander and pondered where Carlos Correa might end up.

Among the teams and baseball-related attire were a sharp Seattle Pilots No. 56 Jim Bouton jersey worn by Jerry Miller. Thrilled by the recent signing of Noah Syndergaard, Don Dingee wore an Angels shirt. Jim Baker wore an Astros shirt, while Jan Larson, true to form, wore the cap from the most recent World Series champion, Atlanta Braves. Just two months removed from the induction ceremony at the National Baseball Hall of Fame, Ira Siegel wore a “Class of 2020” shirt. Ryan Pollack wore a FanGraphs t-shirt featuring details from a modern baseball scorebook. I wore a Hokkaido Nippon-Ham Fighters cap in honor of Ohtani, who played for the Fighters for five years in Japan before joining the Los Angeles Angels in 2018.

Joe Gallagher brought a bag of vintage baseball cards to give away over lunch. Lots of great cards to admire, including cards of Felipe Alou, Curt Flood, and an Astros 1970 Rookie Stars card featuring John Mayberry and Bob Watkins, among others.

This was the 180th consecutive month with a meeting, a streak that dates to December 2006.

If you haven’t already, save Saturday, Jan. 8, 2022, on your calendar. We’re planning our 16th Annual Bill Gilbert Winter Meeting at Texas State University. More details to come.

The December meeting will be at 1 p.m. Saturday, Dec. 18, at County Line Bar-B-Q on the Lake in Northwest Austin.

Chapter members gather for World Series Game 4 watch party

 

After COVID-19 shut down a long chapter tradition last year, the World Series watch party at Jim Baker’s house returned in fine form on Saturday for Game 4.

Twelve chapter members and guests watched a tight ballgame in which the Astros put up two early runs while the Braves pitching staff stranded runners every inning. But back-to-back home runs by Dansby Swanson and Jorge Soler in the 7th inning sealed the game for the Braves, who take a three-games-to-one lead in the World Series.

Jim provided delicious hot dogs, bratwurst, snacks and desserts for our enjoyment. Monte and Linda Cely brought tasty buckeyes and others brought an assortment of snacks and beverages.

Jerry Miller provided a fun trivia quiz that featured clues of ballplayers who share a name with another ballplayer or a celebrity or politician outside of baseball.

Host Jim Baker took top honors on the quiz (pictured below, left), earning 30 out of 32 possible points. Jerry’s friend Gene was second with 28 points, and Jan Larson (pictured below, right) had 25 points. Monte had 18 and David had 14. Jerry provided as prizes 1979 Dodgers programs that featured Dusty Baker, now manager of the Astros, on the cover. Notice that the programs had a 50-cent cover price!

You can take a swing at Jerry’s quiz below. The answers follow the quiz questions. (For a colorful presentation of the answers to the quiz, click here: Name is the Same baseball quiz answers.)

Many thanks to Jim Baker for hosting the World Series watch party, always one of the highlights of our year.

We haven’t set the date yet for the November meeting but will let you know through the chapter email list.

“THE NAME’S THE SAME” by Jerry Miller

Below is a list of two (or more) baseball players or other individuals that share the same first and last names. Your job is to identify them. (Two non-baseball examples: “Former ESPN anchor and lieutenant governor of Texas” = “Dan Patrick,” and “Former Secretary of State, sponsor of annual Predictatron contest, and your host for this evening,” = “Jim Baker.”) None of the individuals are related, so there are no “Ken Griffeys,” or “Cal Ripkens” out there. The questions are arranged in perceived order of difficulty (i.e. easiest first, progressively harder).

  1. An easy one to get you started. This Dodger catcher hit a home run off his namesake, an Atlanta Braves pitcher, in the 2020 NLCS. They are also reputedly fans of their namesake, an actor in “Men in Black,” “The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air,” and other films.
  1. This outfielder converted to a shortstop and later manager holds the all-time Los Angeles Dodger record for games played, and shares a name with the greatest winner in team sports, with ten NBA championships in 12 years with the Boston Celtics.
  1. The first was a temperamental outfielder with the Expos, Dodgers, A’s, and others. His namesake is a board game company whose products include Candy Land, Twister, and Yahtzee.
  1. Add an “n” to the first name of a famous television actress (The Young and Restless, Desperate Housewives) from Corpus Christi and you get a third baseman for the Tampa Bay Rays and San Francisco Giants.
  1. While we’re adding letters: add a letter to the last name of the first openly gay ballplayer, and you have the general manager of the Oakland A’s, famously portrayed by Brad Pitt in “Moneyball.”
  1. The first was a utility infielder for the Washington Senators, Los Angeles Dodgers, and others in the 1960s and early 70s. His namesakes include a present-day Senator from Louisiana, and the 35th President of the United States.
  1. Another three-fer: The first is a World Series-winning manager who had one of the most famous stolen bases in history. The second was a journeyman left-handed pitcher in the 70s and early 80s, mostly for the Padres and Astros, who still holds the San Diego record for lowest season ERA. The third was a third baseman, catcher, and second baseman who played parts of ten years in the majors from 1972 to 1982, and just missed being a teammate of #2 with the Padres.
  1. Third baseman and outfielder for the Tigers and the 1986 World Champion Mets, and a largely defunct roadside restaurant chain famously known for their ice cream, orange roof, and shortened name.
  1. A Hall of Fame manager for the Yankees and a 1950s red-baiting politician who was censured by the Senate.
  1. One is a starting guard for the Los Angeles Clippers. The second is “Mr. October.”
  2. The first was primarily a DH for the Cleveland Indians, who is still active, albeit with a different team. The second is a noted guitarist, known for his namesake band and such hits as “Oye Como Va” and “Black Magic Woman.”
  1. One is a Hall of Fame first baseman and designated hitter who now makes cheesy commercials for testosterone supplements and recently purchased the “Field of Dreams.” His namesake played 16 years as an outfielder for seven different National League teams, including the 1962 Mets.
  1. The right fielder for the 1988 World Series champions, and the recently deceased 1974 National League Cy Young award winner for the same team.
  1. A Hall of Fame second baseman and two-time MVP, and the manager of the Boston Red Sox from 1988 to 1991.
  1. One was a right-handed pitcher on the 1962 New York Mets. The other was a left handed pitcher on the 1962 New York Mets. If you need a third, he was a Hall of Fame hockey broadcaster for the Los Angeles Kings.
  1. One is an actress and comedian from the TV series Grace Under Fire. The other is one of the better leadoff hitters from the 80s and 90s for the Braves, Indians, Giants, Dodgers, and Mets, who memorably overcame throat cancer while still active.
  1. One was a bearded reliever for the Giants and Dodgers from 2006 to 2014; the other is the lead singer of an iconic, California-based ‘60s rock band.
  1. One is the brother of a Hall of Fame pitcher and won 20 games and threw a no-hitter for the Dodgers. The other was a journeyman infielder for the Giants, Dodgers, and four other teams in the late 90s and 2000s.
  1. The first was a shortstop for the Cubs, who committed a key error in Game 6 of the 2003 NLCS, known as the “Bartman” game. The second was the opposing shortstop for the Florida Marlins, who were the beneficiaries of the error.
  1. One is one of the greatest left handed hitters of all time, who was given a lifetime ban from the sport. The other was the controversial stage father of one of the most popular singers of his generation and his singing siblings.
  1. One is a Hall of Fame pitcher, primarily for the Phillies; the other is a former ESPN anchor and host of “Good Morning America” who recently served as guest host on “Jeopardy.”
  1. A 1980s/90s infielder for several teams, notably the Rangers and Indians. Despite having an extra “e” at the end of his name, he was called “the Governor” because of his namesake, a four term governor of the nation’s largest state.
  1. One of the last surviving members of the 1955 Brooklyn Dodgers, who also pitched for the 1962 Mets and managed the San Francisco Giants, and a star running back for the Joe Montana-era San Francisco 49ers.
  1. An outfielder who played 13 years from 1926 to 1938, primarily for the Reds and Giants, and the leader of the “Green Mountain Boys” during the American Revolution, after whom a modern day furniture company is named.
  1. A Hall of Fame outfielder, primarily for the Cubs, and his namesake, who played four games for the 1969 Seattle Pilots, earning earned him a mention in “Ball Four.”
  1. The player was the 1988 American League Cy Young Award winner with 27 wins, most since Denny McLain, and had a memorable save in the World Series ten years earlier. The second was a former member of Fleetwood Mac who had a moderately successful solo career, with hits such as “Sentimental Lady” and “Ebony Eyes.”
  1. From “great player, mediocre musician,” we go to “great musician, mediocre player.” He was a journeyman second and third baseman in the 1970s and 80s for the Pirates, White Sox, and others. His namesake was the flamboyant lead singer for an iconic 60s band, who flamed out at age 27 and is famously buried in Pere Lachaise cemetery in Paris.
  1. The first player was a catcher on the Atlanta Braves’ first two pennant winning teams. Add a letter to the first name and you have the 1989 A.L. Rookie of the Year, as a relief pitcher for the Baltimore Orioles.
  1. 1970s and 80s catcher and outfielder, primarily for the Dodgers and Astros, who made a memorable throw from right field in the 1974 World Series, and a former quarterback for the Buffalo Bills, born in the same town as Nolan Ryan (Alvin, TX).
  1. A young, rookie outfielder for this year’s St. Louis Cardinals, and the 2014 Conn Smythe award winner, who won three Stanley Cups and was nicknamed “Mr. Game 7.”
  1. Center fielder, primarily with the Cardinals and most recently the Angels; nicknamed “The Federalist” because, other than spelling the first name differently, he is the namesake of the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
  1. This outfielder played 8 seasons for the Dodgers and Pirates in the 1980s. His walk off squeeze bunt drove in the winning run and capped a four run ninth inning rally in a key win over the Braves during the 1983 pennant race, which the Dodgers won by 3 games. His namesake is the second largest tobacco company in America.

ANSWERS:

  1. Will Smith.
  2. Bill Russell
  3. Milton Bradley.
  4. Eva/n Longoria.
  5. Billy Bean/e
  6. John Kennedy.
  7. Dave Roberts.
  8. Howard Johnson.
  9. Joe McCarthy.
  10. Reggie Jackson.
  11. Carlos Santana.
  12. Frank Thomas.
  13. Mike Marshall
  14. Joe Morgan.
  15. Bob Miller.
  16. Brett Butler.
  17. Brian Wilson.
  18. Ramon Martinez.
  19. Alex Gonzalez.
  20. Joe Jackson
  21. Robin Roberts.
  22. Jerry Brown/e.
  23. Roger Craig.
  24. Ethan Allen.
  25. Billy Williams.
  26. Bob Welch.
  27. Jim Morrison.
  28. Greg/g Olson
  29. Joe Ferguson.
  30. Justin Williams.
  31. Jon/John Jay.
  32. R.J. Reynolds.

World Series Game 4 watch party set for Saturday

The World Series is upon us! And you know what that means. It means the chapter is having its annual World Series watch party! This continues on a long chapter tradition of watching the World Series together.

As you know, AL Champs Houston Astros host the NL Champs Atlanta Braves. Game 4 on Saturday will be in Atlanta.

Food will be provided by our generous host, Jim Baker. For the safety of our members and community, all attendees must be vaccinated to attend.

Pertinent details are in the graphic below. Please RSVP to Jim Baker at <jimbaker1066@yahoo.com> as soon as possible.

HOF report, late-season baseball chatter and milestones/awards quiz highlight September meeting

Details of this year’s National Baseball Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony, chatter about the division and wild card races and a quiz about milestones and awards were among the highlights of the September chapter meeting on Saturday.

Seventeen chapter members and guests on Zoom enjoyed hearing from Monte Cely and Ira Siegel, who traveled to Cooperstown to witness the induction of Derek Jeter, Marvin Miller, Ted Simmons and Larry Walker earlier this month. Though the reported size of the crowd at the induction ceremony was about 20,000, Monte and Ira estimated that it was more like 7,500 to 10,000 people, noting that it wasn’t as crowded as they had feared.

Monte said it was his first visit to the museum, so he and Ira looked at all 333 plaques, toured the museum and enjoyed lunch at the Otesaga Resort Hotel in Cooperstown. Monte also shared a video showing him taking batting practice in cages set up next to Doubleday Field.

The winner of last month’s quiz, Cy Morong, wrote a quiz about sluggers and pitchers who reached lofty milestones without winning an MVP or Cy Young award. Jerry Miller flexed his muscles, taking first place with 20 points, followed by Peter Myers with 17 and Herb Whalley with 14. Mike Bass and Ryan Pollack had 12 points each. Take your shot at the quiz below (the answers follow below the quiz questions).

We also did some quick polls to determine which teams attendees thought might capture division titles and wild card spots. Overall, we think the Dodgers will catch and pass the Giants for the NL West title by a 67 to 33 percent vote. We also gave the Cardinals near-unanimous support to be the second wild card team in the National League by a 92 to 8 percent vote. The Phillies had one vote.

The group unanimously thought the Tampa Bay Rays were well on their way to having the best record in the American League. We also all supported the Boston Red Sox as a wild card team but differed on the second wild card team. Six voted for the Toronto Blue Jays; four for the New York Yankees and one for the Seattle Mariners.

We also had a lively discussion about whether Shohei Ohtani would win the American League MVP Award. Some felt strongly that he wasn’t deserving because of the disappointing performance by the Angels in the AL West, while others thought his case might be stronger if he was also a position player rather than primarily a designated hitter. Still, placing near the top of hitter and pitcher league leader boards, Ohtani may be the favorite to win the award. As with the playoff races, time will tell!

As has been our tradition for many years, the chapter plans to have a World Series watch party for Game 4 on Saturday, Oct. 30, at Jim Baker’s house in Cedar Park. This is subject to change depending on COVID-19. More details to come next month.

Milestones and Awards Quiz

By Cy Morong

1. Name the 9 players who played most of their career from 1931 on, hit 500+ career HRs, and did not win a regular season MVP award (MVP awards before 1931 don’t count).

2. Name the 12 players who played most of their career from 1931 on, had 3,000+ hits, and did not win a regular season MVP award (MVP awards before 1931 don’t count).

3. Name the 5 pitchers who pitched most of their careers from 1959 on, struck out 3,000+ batters, and did not win a Cy Young award.

4. Name the 3 pitchers who pitched most of their careers from 1959 on, won 300+ games, and did not win a Cy Young award.

Answers

  1. Jim Thome, Mark McGwire, Rafael Palmeiro, Manny Ramirez, David Ortiz, Eddie Mathews, Mel Ott, Gary Sheffield, and Eddie Murray
  2. Derek Jeter, Paul Molitor, Eddie Murray, Adrian Beltre, Paul Waner, Tony Gwynn, Dave Winfield, Craig Biggio, Lou Brock, Rafael Palmeiro, Wade Boggs, and Al Kaline
  3. Nolan Ryan, Bert Blyleven, Don Sutton, Phil Niekro, and Curt Schilling
  4. Nolan Ryan, Don Sutton, and Phil Niekro

September Zoom Meeting

We will once again hold our Hornsby Chapter monthly meeting via Zoom on Saturday, September 25 starting at 1:00 p.m. CDT.

We will be hearing a report from two chapter members, Monte Cely and Ira Siegel, who made the trek to Cooperstown for the Hall of Fame induction ceremony.  There will also be the usual trivia quiz.

You may register for the meeting at the link below:

https://txstate.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJAodeqorjIvGdygtgQ-h9sYmRKVQEmsl-Rv

Live Baseball – Recap of August 7 chapter meeting at Dell Diamond

Chapter members met at Linda and Monte Cely’s house near Dell Diamond for some baseball grub and then ventured on to the ball park for the Hornsby Chapter’s August, 2021 outing.

It was a pleasant evening at the ball park.  There was something for all Lone Star State baseball fans, as the Rangers’ and Astros’ AAA affiliates squared off.  The Astros farmhands prevailed, as Sugar Land defeated Round Rock 12-3.

Those of us that got there early enough scored a Yordan Alvarez ROY bobblehead:

We were having such a good time that we forgot to take any pictures of ourselves!  Nine Hornsby Chapter members were in attendance.